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Last month Queermonton interviewed lesbian porn mogul Nan Kinney. Here is the second half of the conversation with the prolific producer.

Vue Weekly: Do you think there are going to be a lot of successful lesbian porn websites soon?

Nan Kinney: I’m happy to see that there are at least a couple. You’ve got one up there in Vancouver with Good Dyke Porn and then the Crash Pad series, it’s really exciting to see this kind of branching out. The market is growing. I would hope it does, I’m feeling positive about it, more individuals are going to get involved in this.

We’re trying to do a redesign on our site to put downloading and VOD [Video on Demand]. Hopefully we’re going to have that in the next few months. Eventually DVDs are going to be phased out. Right now we’re still selling them, people still want them. But down the line I think that’s going to be the main delivery system, whether it’s through the Internet or to your TV.

VW: Why do you think women have such a hard time admitting that they like porn?

NK: It’s all that social and societal upbringing; women aren’t supposed to be outwardly sexual, it’s somehow shameful for women to openly admit it. It’s society’s expectations on women, how they’re cornered into these roles: mother/whore. I think it’s really hard. Women have to be brave to break out of that.

VW: How do you try to fight through that?

NK: It’s been a whole process. When we first started in the early ‘80s, there was just nothing for women. I used to say back then, it’s kind of like doing missionary work. You have to take it out there, show them that it’s alright.

We got a lot of crap for it: negative reactions, hate letters. It’s definitely changed since then. First of all you have to market to women. You have to make pretty covers, make products they might actually enjoy, instead of just trying to force the crappy kind of mainstream porn and porn products—it’s kind of like this whole little industry has opened up around women’s sexuality. Really well made sex toys, really good books, comfortable shopping experiences for women.

VW: If lesbian porn is a niche market, pornography with trans men must be an even smaller one. Do you think that’s ever going to expand?

NK: I think there are people interested in it. It’s never going to be gigantic, but these smaller niche markets are just slower to build. People have to admit it to themselves. It’s so hard to come out as trans and then they have to get into the porn side of it, it’s a slower process.

VW: If someone wants to get started in checking out lesbian porn, say for the holiday season, and you wanted to ease them into it, where would you suggest they start?

NK: Everything that SIR productions has done is great. Like How to Fuck in High Heels and Hard Love. A little story, nice women, edgy sex. Very intelligently done, the same with Sugar High Glitter City. I would start with something that has a little bit of a plot to bring you in, is intelligent, has some good dialogue. I would start there and see how you feel. Maybe check out some of the stuff online, like CrashPadSeries.com, watch a little bit and see how you like it. Same with your gals up there at GoodDykePorn.com, watch about eight or 10 minutes and see how you like it. Test it out, watch a little clip and see if it does anything for you.

If you watch a whole movie and even if you only see one or two things that turned you on, then the movie was worth it. The whole 60 minutes, not every minute of it is going to float your boat. That’s what fast forward is for, just go to the parts that you like, don’t sit there and watch stuff you don’t like. You’re in control, it’s not in control of you, you’re in control of it, just like sex.

VW: Lastly, you’re in California, with everything going on right now, do you have any thoughts on Proposition 8?

NK: Oh, it’s so distressing! The whole thing, we had this whole high of everything, Barack Obama getting elected, what a huge thing on many levels in this country. Even for our little business. And then we had this smack down with this religious right coming back again to attack people for loving each other. It’s just hideous. It’s going to take time, I’ve been in this business for 25 years, I’ve seen a lot of changes. it does happen, we just have to keep at it. I believe it’s going to happen, same-sex marriage is going to be legal in California, sooner or later. Hopefully sooner.

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